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Viewpoints/Views/Layouts of other PRojects as Reference

Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin
I wish we could use any Viewpoint/View/Layout of any other Project as Trace Reference.
Just as we can take a View or Layout of another Project and place it into our active Project, so this would be a great enhancement of ArchiCAD functionality.

There is actually a workaround I just found:
1. Place the View of the other Project onto one of the Layouts in your active Project.
2. Show that Layout as Trace Reference.
The magnification of the external View may need to be changed to match in size to the active Project's View.

So the wish is that this be possible directly, without workaround steps.
Loving Archicad since 1995 - Find Archicad Tips at x.com/laszlonagy
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Rob
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
hmm, I can see interesting possibilities with this feature...
::rk
Link
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner
Nice workaround Laci.

This wish is up there with referencing an external detail with the detail tool. If they can do one, they can do the other right?

Can't you just ride your bike over to the red fortress and ask them?

Cheers,
Link.
Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin
Link wrote:
Nice workaround Laci.

This wish is up there with referencing an external detail with the detail tool. If they can do one, they can do the other right?

Can't you just ride your bike over to the red fortress and ask them?

Cheers,
Link.
Yes, I will tell them. Iam going there several times a week because I am working for them on some materials that will come out in the future.
However, here is the other side of the coin: I started working with this method yesterday and in 30 minutes I managed to crash AC11 3 times. All I was trying to do was drawing Walls by clicking on points of this external Trace Reference and splitting Walls by lines contained in this external Trace Reference. So if you guys try it and see similar behavior, just be aware that it might be caused by this workaround. Maybe this much indirect referencing of data is not something the program is currently prepared for by code.
I am reporting this problem and wish to them now.
Loving Archicad since 1995 - Find Archicad Tips at x.com/laszlonagy
AMD Ryzen9 5900X CPU, 64 GB RAM 3600 MHz, Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB, 500 GB NVMe SSD
2x28" (2560x1440), Windows 10 PRO ENG, Ac20-Ac27
Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin
Since I needed to use this workaround solution in the last couple of days I could not help but find out what causes those crashes I wrote about in my previous post.
It is when you try to split an element and when you need to click the element which will split it:
IF
1. That splitter element is part of a Trace Reference
plus
2. The source of that Trace Reference is a Drawing placed on a Layout
THEN
there is a very good chance that it will crash ArchiCAD.

I will report this to GS.
Loving Archicad since 1995 - Find Archicad Tips at x.com/laszlonagy
AMD Ryzen9 5900X CPU, 64 GB RAM 3600 MHz, Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB, 500 GB NVMe SSD
2x28" (2560x1440), Windows 10 PRO ENG, Ac20-Ac27
Anonymous
Not applicable
For now:
Why not just copy “whatever” from source.pln, paste
onto “false” story of working.pln (either up or down) set the dynamite
charge, leave the room, come back when the smoke clears
and now you have a bunch of harmless lines that don’t contaminate
your schedules/views and have direct Trace Reference.
Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin
Bier wrote:
For now:
Why not just copy “whatever” from source.pln, paste
onto “false” story of working.pln (either up or down) set the dynamite
charge, leave the room, come back when the smoke clears
and now you have a bunch of harmless lines that don’t contaminate
your schedules/views and have direct Trace Reference.
Yes, that could work, but I guess the Trace Reference feature was developed so we do not need such workarounds.
I prefer trying to use a feature to its max and then pushing GS for any needed fix rather than curdling my brain trying to think up workarounds.

Actually, I am in contact with GS about this crash. It seems it crashes only when the splitter element is a line. What we actually tried is this: when the splitter element was a Wall, everything was fine, when it was a line, it crashed.
A good piece of info to avoid these crashes until the fix comes.
Loving Archicad since 1995 - Find Archicad Tips at x.com/laszlonagy
AMD Ryzen9 5900X CPU, 64 GB RAM 3600 MHz, Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB, 500 GB NVMe SSD
2x28" (2560x1440), Windows 10 PRO ENG, Ac20-Ac27
Anonymous
Not applicable
Thanks for the update on line as splitter crash.
Just gotta love the new T&R tool. What a smash hit!
And your right, direct from other source would be very nice.
Just my personal top of list is: slider with live real time
view of light-works settings (even if it was very limited to
start with) ; stair and foundation tool upgrades, because
for me, these are used much more often in my world as a
designer/builder.
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