2007-11-08 01:07 AM - last edited on 2023-05-09 01:02 PM by Noemi Balogh
2009-03-02 06:17 AM
Krippahl wrote:I could not agree less.
Also being able to extract information from the various components, besides dimensions and layers, is indispensable. For instance, if I select a door I want to see all kinds of info, like materials, fabricator, prices, fire rating, and all those things that are already in my model.
2009-03-02 01:36 PM
Karl wrote:Hey Karl,
The licensed VBE saves an EXE file
2009-03-02 02:17 PM
Chazz wrote:I have a 5 year old and I just checked. She can use it, easy peazy!!. But she's pretty bright
However, if it is so simple that a 5 year old can use it.............
2009-03-02 02:26 PM
Chazz wrote:These are GS words about VBE:Krippahl wrote:I could not agree less.
Also being able to extract information from the various components, besides dimensions and layers, is indispensable. For instance, if I select a door I want to see all kinds of info, like materials, fabricator, prices, fire rating, and all those things that are already in my model.
2009-03-02 02:28 PM
Chazz wrote:Krippahl wrote:I could not agree less...
Also being able to extract information from the various components, besides dimensions and layers, is indispensable. For instance, if I select a door I want to see all kinds of info, like materials, fabricator, prices, fire rating, and all those things that are already in my model.
Again I will ask:who is the target audience for this thing?I have no interest in my audience being able to click on a wall and see what it is made of. I want them to understand my design in it's most essential form, not be overwhelmed by the complexity of its construction.
Eric wrote:I can see this being useful for early client presentations of a conceptual model right through to enabling on-site viewing of a construction model, complete with all the functions Miguel has described. Of course this depends on the suitability of the model but VICO shows this can be done if the motivation is there. Turn layers on and off to get into the details on site using a tablet, mark it up, refer to associated drawings .. very handy.
And Chazz, I think you're right on the money. Is this a presentation tool, or what? I'm not sure it knows itself yet.
Chazz wrote:exactly
...if it is so simple that a 5 year old can use it, then a tool like VBE becomes much more valuable to me. At the very least the author needs to have the ability to hide the complexity from the audience and reduce the experience to something with a navigation bar and nothing else.
Please GS, don't give us a 2004 Treo when what we all want is a 2009 iPhone.
2009-03-02 04:25 PM
Krippahl wrote:Yeah, I read that too. And I hate to be put in the position of arguing
These are GS words about VBE:
"All stakeholders - clients, consultants, builders, etc. - can explore and fully understand the entire architectural project design at any stage of the design development process in a user friendly 3D navigation environment."
Thats your target audience.
If the product is intended for consultants and builders, then there has to be more information in the model.
2009-03-02 04:52 PM
Chazz wrote:Ok Chaz, you made it clear what kind of client YOU have, and what kind of product YOU want.
I simply don't have consultants and certainly no builders who could use something like this as a means to extract meaninful information from my model.
2009-03-02 05:37 PM
Krippahl wrote:Fair enough but I think it's reasonable to say that there remains some question as to where this thing is best deployed in the workflow.
After all, there must be a slight chance that the universe is not Chazzcentric...
2009-03-02 05:41 PM
Ben wrote:I think we've established that the kids down under are smarter and the contractors in Portugal are more techno-savvy and resourceful.
I have a 5 year old and I just checked. She can use it, easy peazy!!. But she's pretty bright
2009-03-04 12:54 AM